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@DaveHolmes ("Dave Holmes") replied to a tweet by @DaveHolmes:
And if you have an excuse to talk to the great @dherzog77, the guy who started the whole thing, you do it. Had a fun, informative and bittersweet conversation with him for @esquire. https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a43864732/mtv-news-shutdown-doug-herzog/