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cstanhope@social.coop ("Charles Stanhope") wrote:

@zkat I can't speak to others, but my main aversion to IDEs is the need to use too many of them. They're all a little different, each with unique bugs (I had one that couldn't even keep the cursor aligned with the text insertion point). I work in the embedded space and am writing code at a variety of levels and for various runtimes. It's helpful to have a consistent experience when writing and reading code etc. I tend to just use the IDEs to set up projects and compile them. :/

cstanhope@social.coop ("Charles Stanhope") wrote:

"Print debugging is bad," shout the people marketing me sophisticated debuggers with limited applicability.

cstanhope@social.coop ("Charles Stanhope") wrote:

I wonder if print debugging would be more acceptable if we just called it "logging". Everybody likes appropriate logging, right? :thonking:

"Let me just add more logging to this routine."

Anyway, I have no qualms with print debugging. Most of the things I am debugging occur live on a complicated system that needs to keep running, I have limited access, and I can't just set a breakpoint and poke around. So I "print" things to a log for analyzing later.

Use what works.

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

Anyway is aversion to IDEs some sort of toxic masculinity thing?

Fellas is it gay to use the computer

Anathema wrote:

If I'm already (mostly!) happy with #fsharp does looking at #ocaml give me anything?

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

Conversely: Mamsir, we have rust-analyzer, just go ahead and complete the types. The ones people typically have trouble writing are the ones rustc can't just infer for you anyway (generic constraints/params, dynamics), so I guess this whole argument is moot to me anyway.

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

Which isn't to say rust shouldn't be usable without an IDE, but seriously, our development tools are a critical part of our development experience already and we can't just pretend they're not already doing a ton for us.

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

My perspective for anyone who says inferring these, even just at a module level, is a bad idea:

Sir, we have rust-analyzer.

And yes, languages like Rust ultimately are usable because of IDE/reporter support. It's fine to lean on this imo

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

RT @ekuber@twitter.com

While shit posting, it dawned on me: Rust doesn't do inference in fn signatures because of possible bugs, ease of analysis and how big of a semver foot gun it would be. But if the fn is crate private, then the last problem is not a consideration.

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/ekuber/status/1431215332597903361

pzmyers@octodon.social ("pzmyers 🦑") wrote:

I got an invitation to review a paper by Rhawn Joseph. I think I'll blow them off.

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2021/08/27/i-get-email-98/

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sohkamyung@mstdn.io ("Soh Kam Yung") wrote:

RIP. I vividly remember seeing the impacts comet Shoemaker–Levy 9 made on Jupiter through a telescope at the time.

"Obituary: Carolyn S. Shoemaker (1929–2021)

Co-discoverer of first comet known to collide with a planet in modern times."

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02345-5

#Obituaries #Scientists #Comets #Personalities

@evilscientistca

Anathema wrote:

@BylineTimes@twitter.com Despite the contents frequently being very distressing due to powerlessness one feels when reading all these obviously corrupt government appointments and actions.

Anathema wrote:

I love reading @BylineTimes@twitter.com

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Vierkantor@mastodon.vierkantor.com ("Anne `hex(44203)` Baanen") wrote:

finally found the screenshot

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• A picture from MIT's Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs course, given in July 1986 for Hewlett-Packard employees. Hal Abelson is standing in front of a blackboard where he has written "COMPUTER SCIENCE", and subsequently crossed out each word. The original course videos are available at: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures/ (remote)

Anathema wrote:

Digital assistants should by default require ending your requests with 'please'

Anathema wrote:

When navigation apps suggest faster routes due to traffic conditions do they limit how many people they offer it to or just say "fuck it, not our fault if we cause 100 cars to block this small rural road the locals depend on" ?

Anathema wrote:

This sure is a fucking mood.

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Anathema wrote:

Goal for this year: watch every movie that Bob Anderson was sword master for. What a talent.

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

The Jem comic series is seriously one of the great gems of comics of the past decade tbh

RT @caderaspindrift@twitter.com

So this is from Jem and the Holograms #12, back in 2016.

The Misfits are looking for a fill-in lead-in singer, since Pizzazz is injured.

The yellow/red-haired girl is Blaze, she's new.

Story by Sophie Campbell & Kelly Thompson; art by Sophie Campbell.

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/caderaspindrift/status/1431116564925849600

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Motorod ("Rodrigo Mesa") wrote:

RT @Motorod Whoa. Dude.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/08/the-day-the-dinosaurs-died

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

ok yeah this is actually, in fact, impossible.

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

yes this is for shenanigans.

no i wont tell you

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

I am not good at my job

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

is there literally no way to do this

RT @zkat__@twitter.com

like. I literally just want to:

1. include a file in my dotnet tool
2. be able to pack that dotnet tool
3. get a filepath to that file on disk at runtime that I can load it from

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/zkat__/status/1431069467933478917

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

like. I literally just want to:

1. include a file in my dotnet tool
2. be able to pack that dotnet tool
3. get a filepath to that file on disk at runtime that I can load it from

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

me: supposedly "in charge" of the pack/publish story in nuget

also me: literally cannot figure out how to include (and access) arbitrary files when packing a dotnet tool.

:((((((( this sucks

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

anyway please read both of them they are so good. I'm not even done with What Does The Fox Say, tho, because it's SO LONG?

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

https://twitter.com/outcontextyuri/status/1430965332756287650 LOOK AT THIS it's such a nail-biter and I don't think I've ever seen a poll with this many votes lol

zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

for those not already following along, this GL account has been doing a little tournament for the best GL and then put two of the highest-caliber, most popular GL against each other ON THE FIRST ROUND and the furor is REAL and if you like either of these I need you to vote

RT @outcontextyuri@twitter.com

I mean https://twitter.com/outcontextyuri/status/1430965329933578246

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/outcontextyuri/status/1430985909202206721

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zkat@toot.cat ("Kat Marchán 🐈") wrote:

I love this.

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