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cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber") wrote:

But I don't think it needs to *remain* impossible. I actually do think there is a lot of other space for exploration. Most of the work I have done throughout my career has been in the space of "but that's not how it works", and developing into the spaces of research where actually, there is another possibility.

My question by putting it into the abstract wasn't because I wanted to trick people into "ha ha, guess what, it's LLMs", because it's actually *propagator networks*, which are a dramatically different (and in many ways, diametrically opposed, but can be used on their own or in conjunction with machine learning techniques) branch of "AI".

But again, I didn't want to get into the specifics of the technique. But in some ways it doesn't matter, because LLMs have won the entire brainspace of what people *think* is possible right now.

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cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber") wrote:

One thing is clear from reading many of the replies here: LLM companies (whom I am *explicitly against*), trying to brand their tools *as* AI, clearly won: both pro and anti LLM people are jumping into the replies to tell me that the only thing that can be called "AI" is LLMs, and conceiving of anything else or which has any other properties is impossible.

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dysfun@treehouse.systems ("gaytabase") wrote:

in the context of gnarly high performance concurrency code of course, 'simple' has a slightly different meaning where i'm allowed to get away with writing dysfuncode while calling it simple :blobcatangel:

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Boosted by kornel ("Kornel"):
redsad@ohai.social ("captain acab :antifa: 🏳️‍🌈") wrote:

how to say "fuck around and find out" with some goddamn class

Captain Picard from Star Trek: you may test that assumption at your convenience.

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dysfun@treehouse.systems ("gaytabase") wrote:

sometimes you rearrange things and something clicks and something else clicks and a pile of code goes away and only magic is left.

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Boosted by neatnik@social.lol ("Neatnik"):
rpm@social.lol ("Robin Monks :opensource:") wrote:

I’ve taken to never auto-renewing anything. If it’s a subscription I’ll buy for a year and then immediately go in and cancel at the end of the term. There is ALWAYS a lower price or a coupon offered to re-subscribe, if not before the renewal date then within a week of it ending.

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:mrjfrta3m7ihypn4w4glzlkg/post/3mrb42ssir22d

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dysfun@treehouse.systems ("gaytabase") wrote:

one of the things about simplicity is it's really hard to make something simple sometimes.

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Boosted by cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber"):
cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber") wrote:

@koen_hufkens It's a pretty different paradigm (propagator model of computation), either one applied entirely separately or in conjunction. But it's interesting that I think the LLM view of things is so predominant that even perceiving of something radically different is difficult. But also, given our socioeconomic structure, does it matter? I don't know.

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Boosted by cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber"):
mcc wrote:

RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116963692432270169

I like Codeberg. I am glad to be financially supporting Codeberg. The moment a commercial app goes subscription I stop using it, but I am more than happy to financially support software and websites on a monthly basis as long as their values align with mine and I don't lose access to files when I stop paying.

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jonny@neuromatch.social ("jonny (nonvenomous)") wrote:

AI being eval'd by AI company hacks other AI company's AI written code which is then diagnosed and patched by AI and everyone concludes that what is needed in all this is more AI.

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EmilyEnough@hachyderm.io ("Emily 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️") wrote:

Reminder from FedEx to check that your localization for errors work too before shipping to prod.

Screenshot of the FedEx delivery website for a package where the text on the label is clearly a localization id string and not the content that should be displayed.

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pzmyers@freethought.online ("pzmyers 🕷") wrote:

I'm enjoying the downfall of Lily Jay.

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2026/07/22/hey-atheists-i-have-a-question-is-lily-jay-fake/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Dd5FLTlxA

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sirosen ("Stephen Rosen") wrote:

We just released pip-tools v7.6.0!

Check it out. 🎉

https://sirosen.net/2026/07/16/pip-tools-760.html

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Boosted by glyph ("Glyph"):
arstechnica ("Ars Technica") wrote:

US Army faces AI use limits after exhausting year's supply of AI tokens

Troops received an email informing them that they were rapidly depleting their AI tokens.
https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/07/us-army-faces-ai-use-limits-after-exhausting-years-supply-of-ai-tokens/?utm%5Fbrand=arstechnica&utm%5Fsocial-type=owned&utm%5Fsource=mastodon&utm%5Fmedium=social

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Boosted by glyph ("Glyph"):
barubary@infosec.exchange ("Oriel Jutty :hhHHHAAAH:") wrote:

Liability Laundering Machine

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Boosted by glyph ("Glyph"):
xgranade@wandering.shop ("Cassandra 📍 San Francisco (for real!)") wrote:

There should be (and probably already is) a repair shop for bikes, computers, or pick your favorite repairable special interest but that specializes in repairing shit that's hard to even identify. You know, like a car from an obscure national make that's long since folded, or a random piece of electronics from eBay or alibaba.

Call it Parts Unknown.

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Boosted by cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber"):
stevendbrewer@wandering.shop ("Steven D. Brewer 🏳️‍⚧️") wrote:

@cwebber @jenniferplusplus

Spiderman panel that shows Spiderman talking to a pterodactyl saying, "You can rewrite DNA on the fly, and you're using it to turn people into dinosaurs? But with tech like that you could cure cancer." The pterodactyl says, "But I don't want to cure cancer. I want to turn computers into people."

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Boosted by cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber"):
expede@types.pl ("Brooklyn Zelenka") wrote:

📃🐝✨ Excited to share a preprint about BeeKEM, a decentralized / local-first variant of MLS's TreeKEM (group E2EE) that we designed at
Ink & Switch. Huge thanks to our coauthors for the writeup and empirical analysis — we were all pleasantly surprised by the performance results 📊 https://eprint.iacr.org/2026/1434.pdf

BeeKEM: Decentralized, Secure and Efficient Group Key Agreement Derek Yen, Andrés Fabrega, Liangrun Da, Martin Kleppmann, John Mumm, Sunoo Park, Brooklyn Zelenka

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foone@digipres.club ("Alice Averlong🏳️‍⚧️") wrote:

Is there a list anywhere of which crimes AI companies are apparently allowed to commit "because AI"?

There's at least piracy & hacking, some nasty ones involving CSAM and faked pornography, what else?

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Boosted by cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber"):
david_chisnall@infosec.exchange ("David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)") wrote:

USB-C cables are so expensive because each one includes a cryptographically secure entropy source to ensure that it does breaks at an unpredictable time while in use.

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Boosted by cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber"):
TomsHardware@flipboard.com ("Tom's Hardware") wrote:

AI tech companies have ‘hidden debt’ worth around $1.65 trillion, report claims — amount is 122% of debt reflected on the balance sheets of Alphabet, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, and Oracle
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/ai-tech-companies-have-hidden-debt-worth-around-usd1-65-trillion-report-claims-amount-is-122-percent-of-debt-reflected-on-the-balance-sheets-of-alphabet-amazon-meta-microsoft-and-oracle?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub

Posted into Tom's Hardware @tom-s-hardware-TomsHardware

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sky@schub.social ("Sky Schubert") wrote:

like... you know those models don't just.. you know... run on their own, yes?

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sky@schub.social ("Sky Schubert") wrote:

okay, so...

why exactly do we believe the "thing" was actually happening autonomously, and why do we not think this is just yet another marketing lie by a company that has a long track record of marketing lies?

I'm... I'm a bit lost.

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cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber") wrote:

As @vv points out, a lot of people think I am talking about tweaking LLMs to make this happen. I'm not, though they might or might not be *part* of the answer here. Think "AI" in much broader terms in this thought experiment.

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Boosted by cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber"):
llewelly@sauropods.win wrote:

@cwebber hugging face got facehugged?

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Boosted by cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber"):
vv@solarpunk.moe ("vv 💫 [follow my new artist profile!]") wrote:

@cwebber Interesting to see how many people assume you are talking only about LLMs here

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Boosted by cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber"):
jameshowell@fediscience.org ("James Endres Howell") wrote:

RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116963692432270169

I like the governance model even more than I like the decision.

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glyph ("Glyph") wrote:

@jonny jesus wept

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cwebber@social.coop ("Christine Lemmer-Webber") wrote:

I have a friend who keeps saying "drinking our own champagne" instead of "eating our own dogfood" and I gotta say that what I think of every time I hear that isn't any better

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jonny@neuromatch.social ("jonny (nonvenomous)") wrote:

OH MY GOD THIS IS ACTUALLY 100000000 TIMES AS FUNNY AS I THOUGHT
https://www.newser.com/article/63ab84fed5612af04d8a160d60f6def3/openai-says-its-ai-technology-acted-on-its-own-in-an-unprecedented-hack-of-another-company.html