@jonny please do not confess to any federal crimes on here jonny these threads are too good
This was a post that was very satisfying to publish because it reversed the trend of posts that I start on that are too large and ambitious to ever finish, and instead turned into a post that got *3* ideas out of my head that have been stuck in the drafts all at once instead of needing to be split up into 20 parts (implicit social relationships in open source, ethical game theoretic implications of maintainership, how to address users howling in psychic pain from open source code changes)
jonny@neuromatch.social ("jonny (nonvenomous)") wrote:
so huh isn't this one of those containers that's like easy to break out of if you are root inside of it
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mhoye@cosocial.ca wrote:
But this nonsense? This is the "cutting edge agentic AI engineering" from the biggest, most powerful tech companies in the world, companies with effectively infinity money that spent the last two decades claiming they only hire the smartest one percent of the smartest one percent of the smartest one percent of all the engineers, and it looks like child claiming they're a Doctor Of Biochemistry because they found a laser pointer, and can sometimes make the cat chase the red dot around the room.
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mhoye@cosocial.ca wrote:
But the entire structure of these things is always the same. Opaque statistical models wrapped in human-written, plain English supplication.
I guess I'm old, but I can distinctly remember when being able to read the text of the code and understand for-real how the computer works and why it does what it does was, you know, THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE.
THAT WAS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS ENTIRE TEDIOUS EXERCISE. THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE AT THE MERCY OF CODE WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND.
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Elizafox@treehouse.systems ("Elizabeth :therian: :cascadia: 🏳️⚧️") wrote:
"But Elizabeth, this time it's a real problem, you see, AI is a real existential threat and so THIS TIME we should harass people"
Yeah yeah you said that before and people have been bullying people for... gets cue cards out
systemd vs sysv init vs openrc vs... whatever
distribution choice... even when they're decidedly NOT run by Nazis... before anyone CARED if a distro was run by a Nazi (it's good that they do btw but HOLY SHIT don't pretend y'all suddenly grew a conscience overnight)
fucking text editor choice
desktop environment / window manager choice, BEFORE this KDE shit and everyone took stupid pills
Using Flash. Yes. USING FLASH. PEOPLE USED TO FUCKING BULLY PEOPLE FOR THAT.
codec choice (I am old enough to remember when people got flamed for using GIF... yes, GIF. Fucking GIF was CONTROVERSIAL AS FUCK once upon a time)
encryption algorithm choice
X11 vs Wayland
using NON-FREE SOFTWARE
INCLUDING NON-FREE SOFTWARE
USING A REPO WITH NON-FREE SOFTWARE
USING A DEVICE THAT REQUIRES FIRMWARE
using a permissive software license over the GPL
using a public domain dedication over the GPL
using the GPLv2 instead of GPLv3
do you want me to continue? I got a whole-ass stack of cue cards here
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Elizafox@treehouse.systems ("Elizabeth :therian: :cascadia: 🏳️⚧️") wrote:
Everyone I know from FOSS has a bullying story and this shit is NOT cool. Don't come into my @'s trying to tell me "but this time we're right Elizabeth. This time we're right. Because blah blah AI bad." AI IS bad but harassing people isn't the fucking way you deal with this. This is some terminally online crap.
I've been in FOSS for 23 years and it's always been bullying, harassment, and coming up with new and exciting justifications for it. I have never bought it. I never will.
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Elizafox@treehouse.systems ("Elizabeth :therian: :cascadia: 🏳️⚧️") wrote:
I'm tired of the cultural norm in FOSS being "let's bully other people to get what we want". It is so fucking bad that even now people still say "we should handle AI through sustained harassment and bullying" and coming up with justifications. There is no justification for harassment, period. Even Nazis, you throw them the fuck out and call it a fucking day, you don't make a huge fucking production out of it, because that's how you get brigaded by Nazis. But terminally online poster brain is everywhere of course.
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Elizafox@treehouse.systems ("Elizabeth :therian: :cascadia: 🏳️⚧️") wrote:
I'm tired of FOSS being so hostile it makes commercial software development look friendly and kind.
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stejfs_photos@mastodon.goeg.dscloud.biz ("Štejf's Photobox") wrote:
Furciety meet -Oer-Erkenschwick 05.2026
Furciety meet -Oer-Erkenschwick 05.2026
jscalzi@threads.net ("John Scalzi") wrote:
(also please didn't come fuming and hollering about this in my comments here, I'll just hide your comments and/or block you if I decide you're being especially obnoxious)
jscalzi@threads.net ("John Scalzi") wrote:
I've come late to this and what I've been able to winkle out about it all is that some people are upset that a vetted, authorized version of a character clashes with their headcanon, which... okay? It happens sometimes? Also, yes, T. Kingfisher is a goddamned delight.
RE: https://www.threads.com/@readingismagical/post/DdsMLdYnTwU
jonny@neuromatch.social ("jonny (nonvenomous)") wrote:
i don't know what to do now, i never thought i'd get here.
jonny@neuromatch.social ("jonny (nonvenomous)") wrote:
great! got a root shell
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synbi@plush.city ("Synbi :blobhaj_hearttrans:") wrote:
Does anyone have resources for parents on how to not be a dogshit parent to trans people?
Yes i just had that talk, he says he wants to learn so i want to give him a chance.
Edit: feel free to boost. I'd def like as many options as possible!
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lalah@sakurajima.moe ("Rosy") wrote:
@soatok yeah people can die from withdrawal symptoms if they quit certain drugs too suddenly. this obviously does not happen when people give up sex or porn. addiction is a serious life-threatening condition, not just a bad habit.
jonny@neuromatch.social ("jonny (nonvenomous)") wrote:
the Muse VM as a seedbox, confirmed
jsonstein@masto.deoan.org ("Jeff Sonstein") wrote:
the problem with having two cats
Attachments:
- video: f2b21b2a82d47607.mp4
In particular, it is literally time for some game theory.
This one goes places.
cc the sickos @cthos
New Blog: Who is open source about?
soatok@furry.engineer ("Soatok Dreamseeker") wrote:
This is an interesting video
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ireneista@irenes.space ("Irenes (many)") wrote:
@xgranade very well said, on all counts. thank you very much for the thread.
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xgranade@wandering.shop ("Cassandra has had an adventure") wrote:
For someone on the outside, I do believe that the defense is to have sharp reasons for our anger, to know what it is we are actually angry about and to stick to that as best as possible, knowing that people will use our valid and necessary anger as pretense to lovebomb and break communities apart.
For both roles, I believe the defense is to be proactive and loud about declaring that AI is not welcome in our communities and our homes. Once we let AI boosters in, this *will* happen.
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xgranade@wandering.shop ("Cassandra has had an adventure") wrote:
For a maintainer, I believe that the defense is knowing this can happen, having sharp reasons for doing what you do *and being prepared* to fall back on those reasons for support when needed, to be proficient in de-escalation, and to both be ready to assume good faith when appropriate and to know when your assumption of good faith is going to be weaponized against you. Good faith is both necessary and a weakness that will be exploited, both can be true.
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xgranade@wandering.shop ("Cassandra has had an adventure") wrote:
The pattern is by now well-established. Slopbros will cause problems on purpose. Someone overworked and underappreciated needs to solve that problem, and does so in a way that isn't literally perfect in every way. The rest of us are left wondering if they are also a saboteur or simply exhausted and trying to do what they can.
Conflict ensues. This is the goal. Once conflict ensues, it's easy for the sloppers to lovebomb, it's easy for them to appeal to reason.
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xgranade@wandering.shop ("Cassandra has had an adventure") wrote:
That preface aside, here's what no one asked for but that I need to say something about.
AI is a critical attack on trust, and we should treat it as such. AI is perfectly poised to inflame passions, create wedges, drive people apart, and break communities into more conquerable cliques.
We have *ample* evidence of this.
dysfun@treehouse.systems ("gaytabase") wrote:
and it' s just fucking excuses on top of excuses. "we had to verify it was them saying the nazi shit". my dude, they literally fucking confessed to being a nazi, what fucking more did you need?
EmilyEnough@hachyderm.io ("Emily 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️") wrote:
That’s not Bumblebee or Soundwave. I wonder how many they shipped in the wrong packaging and if they’d be worth anything on the collector market in a few years….







